Wednesday, September 27, 2006

Back

OK as you can see I'm back . A big thanks to those who wrote to inquire about me. I just was so busy trying to adapt to the new schedule, juggling work , Ramadan, family duties and social life is not easy and something has to suffer- maybe I am getting old ? ;)
Of course the world did not hold while I was away and I'm sure I'll have something to say in the next few days ... I already answered wherever you guys left your comments so do go back to check them .

H .

13 comments:

programmer craig said...

Welcome back! Good to hear you were just busy! I thought we were getting the virtual shebsheb or something :)

Anglo-Libyan said...

welcome back, you have been missed :)

programmer craig said...

I had no hidden intentions when I posted the last comment.

Which makes your comment all the more disgusting, doesn't it?

programmer craig said...

By the way, did you know the name you are using (it's Al-Andalus, spell it correctly at least) comes from the Vandals?

Vandals

Sorry, just had to mention them again!

This part is good!

In 429, after becoming king, Geiseric crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and moved east toward Carthage. Peace was made between the Romans who in 435 granted them some territory in Northern Africa, but it was broken by Geiseric, who in 439 made Carthage his capital. The Vandals took and plundered the city without a fight, entering the city while most of the inhabitants were attending the races at the hippodrome. Geiseric then built the Kingdom of the Vandals and Alans into a powerful state with the capital at Saldae; he conquered Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica and the Balearic Islands.

Did you know they were Christians, oh mighty King? That's OK though, there was no Islam back then anyway. Too bad they headed for Italy instead of heading east across the Red Sea, maybe things would have been different. But they really hated the Romans a lot. In a very real way, you Libyans helped bring down the Roman empire.

During the next thirty-five years, with a large fleet, Geiseric looted the coasts of the Eastern and Western Empires.

There is that piracy thing!

in 455 the Vandals took Rome and plundered the city for two weeks starting June 2. They departed with countless valuables, including spoils of the Temple in Jerusalem brought to Rome by Titus, and the Empress Licinia Eudoxia and her daughters Eudocia and Placidia.

Slavery too! Or is that hostage taking?

It is said that on 2 June, 455, pope Leo the Great received Geiseric and implored him to abstain from murder and destruction by fire, and to be satisfied with pillage. Whether the pope's influence saved Rome is, however, questioned; moreover, the Vandals had only booty in mind, nor was the plundering as extreme as later tradition and the expression "Vandalism" would imply.

Curious: Does the sack of Rome and the destruction of the Western Roman Empire having been launched from North Africa count as a historical grievance the Italians should have aginst Libyan pirates such as yourself, Kingo?

I think it should because the Vandals never left North Africa, the tribe just dissolved there. They probably number among your ancestors, since yuou are Berber and not Arab. As you like to poit out so much.

programmer craig said...

Hmmm.... I accidentally said Rome was sacked and that the Western Roman EMpire was destroyed. I should have used the word "Liberated" right? My bad.

NOMAD said...

I knew our Corsicans are vandals :lol:

programmer craig said...

Libyan Warrior,

Well if you call blah blah blah...

You missed my point. Do you think the Germans or the Vikings of 2000 years ago would allow a culture that was weaker than theirs to attack them (repeatedly)... and survive?

Would they let you, an avowed enemy, live amongst them - and preach hate against them? Would they even let you live at all?

You may be crazy but you aren't a fool.

P.S Who exactly is it ou consider a "Jihadi", I would like to know.

Anybody who is trying to force Islamic beliefs or Islamic laws ond practices on non-mulims, is a jihadi. No matter what means they use. Any type of force, including coercion and intimidation, is a completely unacceptable way to try to spread religion.

How is it Islam lost again?

The same way you are about to lose now. You pushed people one step too far. The Europeans handed you your heads in the West, and the Mongols handed you your heads in the East.

Then the Europeans colonized you. You remember colonization, right? Is being colonized a hallmark of strength?

According to Dubya, Islam is a all time threat? Right?

Yes. I suspect Islam may not even survive at all, this time. Islam has obviously not changed since the last time it happened. You guys feel you are strong enough to succeed now where you failed before. You're wrong. And by the time the war on terror ends, I think somebody is going to make sure that Islam isn't a problem for anybody for at last another 1000 years. Muslims can't coexist with non-muslims? If you force us to make that supposition, you will be sorry.

No PC. We are in a diffrent era man. A Diffrent conflict. Thingshave changed.

Yes. They have changed. You (muslims) had a great empire and mighty armies, last time you lost. Now you live in squalor and subsist on unearned oil wealth.

Things have changed a lot.

You listed 4 teams, but I'm ignoring that. There are only two teams.

Non-Muslims and muslims.

Good guys, and bad guys.

You're on the bad guy team. If I was you, I'd be working on getting my sucky ass bad-guy team to forfeit the match. But I'm not you. I know you think you can win, even though you can't possibly. How many people will have to die before you see the truth, LibyanWarrior?

It doesn't have to be this way. Muslims could change their mind and accept the fact that most of the world is entiirely uninterested in Islam. And then we could all go on with our lives. As soon as you deliver up the criminals amongst you to face justice, anyway.

Writertobe said...

Highlander Dear, Ramadan Kareem to you and your loved ones. How is your new job and life in general? How do you find Ramadan? Difficult, eh! Ah, for me, I really miss my morning coffee. Morning is just not morning without coffee. But really I love Ramadan.
Hugs

programmer craig said...

That was a great comment, man! Especially the part about Ghengis Khan and the Mongols converting to Islam :)

Keep up the good work :D

programmer craig said...

Oh, the Northern European blong haired / blue eyed inhabitants of Constantinopal (that's called Istanbul now, right?) was good too! :P

Maybe casting Brad Pitt and that female German Model to star in "Troy" wasn't as racist as everyone was saying. And who knows, maybe baby Jesus had blue eyes and blond hair too? Hell, I bet everybody used to have blond hair and blue eyes back in ancient times. Probably even Prophet Mohamed. That's why nobody can show his picture, isn't it? Admit it!

programmer craig said...

They where traits in all of Europe

This is an untrue statement.

Gaels in Britian had no traits for blue eyes or blong hair. Neither did their cousins the Gauls in France. Neither did the Slavs in Easetrne Europe.

Germanic and Nordic people had the traits for blue eyes and blond hair. Celts had the trait for blue eyes but tended towards red or reddish hair more than blond.

All 3, Northern European. I won't even go any further south, because no mediterannean people evolved with the trait for either blond hair or blue eyes, period.

I already told you where you (Berbers) got the trait for light hair and eyes. From the Vandals.

The Italians, Spaniards, Turks, Eastern Europeans etc all got those traits from the Germans, the Vikings or the Celts. There is no other source for those genetic traits.

You seem to be fairly ignorant of racial genetics

It's not called "racial genetics" it's called anthropology :P

I've read several books on the subject. You didn't even know the name of the subject. But thanks for passing judgement on my knowledge! With experts like you around, who needs Universities!?

programmer craig said...

After the Mongols came didnt we......... SET UP THE OTTAMAN EMPIRE.

Yeah, big deal. The CHRISTIAN Ostrogoths sacked Constantinope 700 years before before the first muslims got there. About the same time the Vandals sacked Rome, Actually. How many times did muslims sack Rome? I forgot. It was a near thing, though, the Huns were so busy raping the Eastern Roman Empire the Visigoths really had to work some magic to slip through the cracks.

So, yeah. Big deal. I think 3 guys and a mule could have set up the Ottoman Empire by the time muslims invaded.

This thing about the mongols going muslim is a myth, you know. There isn't a single recored case of a mongol converting to Islam. They withdrew after a period of time, as they had grossly over-reached. Genghis Khan had the largest empire in human history, all conquered during his lifetime. But it didn't last long. It didn't even last long in China.

This myth comes from Tamerlane (Timur the Lame) who claimed descent from Ghenghis Khan. He was a muslim. He was not a mongol, though. Even if he was descended from Ghenghis Khan (I read recently that geneticists think some 10% of all people on earth are descended from Ghenghis Khan, he was a very successful male) that doesn't change the fact that Tamerlane was from a one of the Turkic tribes. I forgot which one and I can never pronounce those silly names anyway, look it up for yourself, it'll be good practice.

But anyway, yeah there may have been a few blond haired blue eyed people in Constantinople, descendants of the Goths. Probably less than there are right now, though, since there has been a much greater influx of European genes in recent history than in the distant past.

Anonymous said...

Where in the world did you get the figure that Serbs killed 1 million + Muslims??? There were about 200,000 killed in the Bosnian war and that's from all three sides!!