tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post112896874553601175..comments2024-03-17T10:32:01.495+02:00Comments on From the Rock: Highlanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129096654636730112005-10-12T07:57:00.000+02:002005-10-12T07:57:00.000+02:00In my post above to P-Craig I meant Afghan War ins...In my post above to P-Craig I meant Afghan War instead of Arab WarsHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129095194906357572005-10-12T07:33:00.000+02:002005-10-12T07:33:00.000+02:00Et Bien Voxpopuli Merci pour la visite :) Bien sur...Et Bien Voxpopuli Merci pour la visite :) Bien sur je ne pense pas que Dr. Rice n'a rien a faire que de regarder la tele , si tu as lu mon poste et commentaire tu auras compris que ce n'etait qu'une illustration mais pas mon opinion opinion... n'est-ce pas? <BR/><BR/>But as I said I always love debate! hope I have not made too many errots there in French it's been kind of rusty ;)Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129093192697668082005-10-12T06:59:00.000+02:002005-10-12T06:59:00.000+02:00don't you think that the US secretary of states ha...don't you think that the US secretary of states has better things to do than managing TV shows?Vox Populi - Agent Provocateurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070519720466309847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129089474402853062005-10-12T05:57:00.000+02:002005-10-12T05:57:00.000+02:00I wonder why they choose Ramadan for such shows. I...I wonder why they choose Ramadan for such shows. Is it because they know the Arab world is watching so they want to hammer in propaganda? Ramadan is meant to be a time of peace and tranquility and yet the Arabs seem to love boiling their fellow peoples' blood. The main reason why I just don't watch Arabic TV is that EVERYTHING is political in some way or another.. drives me crazy. Great post though, very educational.Nurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15813575748980379967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129082093743485732005-10-12T03:54:00.000+02:002005-10-12T03:54:00.000+02:00Hassan thanks for giving me a glimpse into the sho...Hassan thanks for giving me a glimpse into the show...they are wasting time because this is Ramadan and they need the prerequisite 30 episodes remember :) this makes for a lenghty show bordering on soap opera hence the side plots. On the other hand this is a dramatization not a documentary and Najdat Anzur has pretty much invented the 'fantasia' series in the Arab world has he not ? that is why we love him so much ...I'm sure you're right about life in compounds in KSA though. Thanks for visiting but you did not leave your link ?Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129081780073338522005-10-12T03:49:00.000+02:002005-10-12T03:49:00.000+02:00Tarek.. yes I agree with you re.Salafists and Zion...Tarek.. yes I agree with you re.Salafists and Zionists both intolerant extremist nuts!Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129081683752175732005-10-12T03:48:00.000+02:002005-10-12T03:48:00.000+02:00Hi P-Craig , glad you're back to commenting here ;...Hi P-Craig , glad you're back to commenting here ;) <BR/><BR/>[Gonna list some things from that essay you didn't quote:]<BR/><BR/>Yes but I did provide the link and suggested people go and read it all... right?<BR/><BR/>Palestinians are different than Jordanians even if about 70% of Jordan are naturalised Palestinians otherwise they would have said Jordanians of Palestinian origin. The Palestinians of Jordan (and I've spoken with many) never let you forget they are Palestinians.<BR/><BR/>So you immediately struck off the show when you saw/read who made it ? that is equivalent to me saying that I know exactly what an American film on Arabs or Muslims would be : stereotyping etc... while it would not necessarily be so. <BR/>That is why we keep a critical eye and that is why this show should have been aired ...not to give the chance for hate to fester. <BR/><BR/>Of course for a Palestinian this would be the wrong war , however I have not seen the show and it seems not many people have seen and only a few have watched the first episodes which were aired so we do not really know what was the message of the series and that is why I provided links from Western sources and from a controversial source to show how conspiracies theories can be spun if one does not have the full picture ;)<BR/><BR/>No Comment about Jordanian blogs, I've only been to a few who spoke about the fun things they were doing .<BR/><BR/>[Oops. There goes the basic premise of the series, I guess! Right out the window!]<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry I did not get that , you were referring to Arab Afghans, do you mean their numbers in comparison to the Afghan warriors ? <BR/><BR/><BR/>With regard to Horseman without a Horse,judging from the media and political rhetoric at that time it did actually sound pretty histerical for an insignificant show right ? but in this manner they thrust it in the limelight and thousands of people watched . By this action they lent shape to the rumours that the alleged 'zionist' media is controlling the strings ....and they sent tongues wagging ... <BR/><BR/><BR/>[and make Osama bin Laden and 3000 Arabs the great heroes of the Afghan war?]<BR/><BR/>Actually P-Craig the Aghan warriors including their Arab supporters were the great heroes of the Arab wars. Although we know that without foreign sponsoring and military aid from the west which was fighting a proxy war they may not have done much ;) And if they were not the heroes they were still seriously protrayed to be so and praised - (including OBL)by MSM media, films ( Rambo and James Bond for example), academics, US government and pretty everybody in the West back then ...So I'm at loss here.It is only when the Soviet army was vanquished followed by the break up of the mujahideen into the Northern Alliance and Taliban that the tables started to turn...<BR/><BR/>You're welcome PC , I actually enjoy your 'ranting' immensely :)Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1129034523417099902005-10-11T14:42:00.000+02:002005-10-11T14:42:00.000+02:00Hi there Highlander. I've been watching the hoor ...Hi there Highlander. I've been watching the hoor al ain show, and so far it's pretty boring and not realistic at all. I've lived in KSA for 5 years and life in compounds is not at all like they protray it. Also they're wasting too much time on stupid little plots that I don;t see how they will help the central premise of the show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1128982462867931552005-10-11T00:14:00.000+02:002005-10-11T00:14:00.000+02:00Don you think that Salafi's and Zionists do have t...Don you think that Salafi's and Zionists do have the same way of thinking anyway. Different faces, but smae minds.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04040899001187322598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5760993.post-1128977402050373432005-10-10T22:50:00.000+02:002005-10-10T22:50:00.000+02:00Hi there, Highlnader... glad you found some time t...Hi there, Highlnader... glad you found some time to pst today, and such an interesting post too!<BR/><BR/>Re:The Road to Kabul<BR/><BR/># a love story in Afghanistan<BR/><BR/>no comment :)<BR/><BR/>Gonna list some things from that essay you didn't quote:<BR/><BR/># by a group of Palestinian and<BR/># Jordanian filmmakers<BR/><BR/>Is there even a difference between Jordanians and Palestinians? In any case, this statement told me all I needed to know about what that series was going to be about. America bashing and Jew baiting. That's all I see on Jordanian blogs, and it's all I see on Palestinian blogs. They are hate-fests. That's another topic though.<BR/><BR/>#the Palestinian quickly concludes<BR/>#that this is the wrong war<BR/><BR/>But of course! I could have predicted that for him from here in California, all he had to do was ask! And then he wouldn't have wasted his time going to Afghanistan! <BR/><BR/># provoked by the United States <BR/># against the Soviet Union in the <BR/># context of the Cold War.<BR/><BR/>But how did the US force the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan?<BR/><BR/># The agent says that the US has<BR/># tested the method with "The Opium<BR/># War" that brought China to its<BR/># knees in the 19th century. (The <BR/># US, of course, had nothing to do<BR/># with the Chinese Opium War that<BR/># involved only the British at the<BR/># time.)<BR/><BR/>How is it that the film-makers were so ignorant of basic world history? Is the viewer supposed to ignore blatantly false content, as long as it supports their conspiracy theory? <BR/><BR/>Apparrently so!<BR/><BR/><BR/># In order to portray the American<BR/># as evil incarnate, the series<BR/># tries to humanize the Soviet<BR/># occupation. The Red Army is<BR/># represented by a number of kindly<BR/># officers led by a bumbling general<BR/># with a special fondness for the<BR/># bottle.<BR/><BR/>Yes. Everyone knows what great humaitarians the Soviets were :D<BR/><BR/># In fact, the "Arab Afghans" never<BR/># numbered more than 3,000 compared<BR/># to over 250,000 native Afghan<BR/># fighters operating in dozens of<BR/># guerrilla groups throughout the<BR/># country.<BR/><BR/>Oops. There goes the basic premise of the series, I guess! Right out the window! Lets not worry about details, though, we have a conspiracy theory to roll out here!<BR/><BR/>Sarcasm aside, I'm glad the series was not aired. That kind of propaganda gets people killed. <BR/><BR/>As for the other show you mention, Horseman Without a Horse, I found the first sentence in your link from Al-Ahram very telling!<BR/><BR/># The hysterical Israeli and<BR/># American reaction to the<BR/># television show Horseman Without a<BR/># Horse is indicative of the way the<BR/># Zionist media machine seeks to<BR/># twist facts and distract attention<BR/># from the real issues.<BR/><BR/>Ah... that would be the other kind of fact twisting, I guess... the type of fact twisting where what you say actually has some resemblance to the truth? As opposed to the kind of fact twisting demonstrated by Jordanian and Palestinian film makers in the first example, where they just swap out Britain's history with America's history, make the Soviet invaders of Afghanistan into the good guys, and make Osama bin Laden and 3000 Arabs the great heroes of the Afghan war?<BR/><BR/>What... ever!<BR/><BR/>:D<BR/><BR/>Nice post btw highlander, thank you. Sarcasm aside, I really enjoyed ranting about that one program, that's exactly the sort of show that makes my skin crawl.programmer craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566950406349754166noreply@blogger.com