The Eclipse
Since I'm in Tunisia I'm of course missing this year's important event in Libya , namely the eclipse. But missing it does not mean I'm going to forget about it does it ?
There are lots of myths and urban legends about this phenomenon, and Khadijateri is telling us some of the more silly ones that ignorance breeds as well. The "point of greatest eclipse will occur in southern Libya at 1011 GMT (1111 BST) ". Which means it happened about an hour ago :).
Blogger Adam reporting from Waw elnamuss is wondering why I am in Tunisia on vacation instead of eclipse -watching.
Well first of all I'm not really on vacation but for other very important issues which cannot be put off, however to make at least something good from a bad situation I thought I'd combine it with a rest. Plus anyway my plans for going to the eclipse area fell thru because primo as Khadijateri said it here "#2 - it's a long drive out there", and no one wanted to come with me and secundo , because the tourist companies who are the official ones allowed to take you there are asking exorbitant prices of over 2600 $ which someone like me cannot afford to stay in a 5 -star tent. Some other dealers asked for 250 Dinars which is one months salary of an employee, who will spend that kind of money and stay hungry for the rest of the month? So no I can't go....
I'm comforting myself with the thought that a long time ago my family and I had the incredible luck of being in the thick of a total eclipse. My school at that time exploited the event to the full ( unlike 7mada's comment here ) and took us eclipse watching it was a great day which I will never forget. Of course I won't tell where or when this happened because this would reveal Highlander's persona..you'll have to take my word for it !
It seems there are thousands of visitors for this event and mostly Americans , I'm surprised at that, but the tours are sold out . To be honest it felt kind of weird to wander around the souk last week and in the Green Square and hear all these English speaking voices. Ah remind why am I in Tunis missing all these good looking guys lol ....
I hope people will share their photos and experiences with me here on the blog .
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My cousin told me that Jesus(PBUH) was going to disend to Sallum, when the eclipse was in full sight, he also went on to say that from their he was going to lead an army, and that their where going to cross to egypt, and that Hosni Mubarak was like the pharaoh, and that egyptian security forces where going to Jesus, and that Allah was going to open up the sea again, and that all of them will drown, Jesus(PHUB) will continue till he reaches Isreal, he will destroy Isreal, Sharon will wake from his coma, A angry group of kids will beat him, until he goes blind, and jesus will slay him.
$3200.00 to sleep in a tent? In the boonies?
I can understand and to some extent 'sympathise' with what you are saying Angry Libyan American although I reserve the right to my own opinion about agreeing or not ! However, I have a simple question for you , if you have an American nationality why don't you give it back and only keep the Libyan one. I think that would be more in line with your ideas and thoughts , practice what you preach sort of ? not take advantage of what this nationality can grant you in terms of benefits...I mean you are proud of being a Libyan right ? therefore label yourself accordingly.
I don't think you are 18 though:) but that is my personal opinion.
Highlander glad that you got safe to Tunisia. Keep us posted about your stay there. Hope you will enjoy yourself :) Cheers
GEE THATS STRANGE. Highlander, I dont really think I can give back the American one because I was born here. As far as my age, I don't know why you would not belive me, do I sound more mature, because if yes you kinda made my day. But Okay, whatever, you come off as a bit hostile,I never asked you to aggre with my opinions, and I really don't care if you do or not to be totally honest with you. I don't like being called a liar, and I don't like being called a hypocrite, as far as keeping my Lybian passport, I did not get a choice in that matter either, my Mother had me on hers, and then she FILED the paperwork and got me one. I havent reaped any benfits from either my US passport, or my Lybian one, I dont even know what I can do with with a U.S nationality, it just kinda sits on the shelf until I travel in the summer, are there places you can go with a U.S passport, and places you can't with a Lybian one????? What benfits Does these peice of blue eagled crap give me? What is it with you do you think America is paved with gold, or something, do you think that people get something speacial for having an American passport? Don't judge me because I don't judge you, and dont ever question my pride, because you should know that unlike you I AM A PURE Lybian, both my mother and father are PURE LYBIANS from Zwara, Lybia is a berber country unlike you I am bound by blood, not by theivery and conquest, I don't like to bring these types of things up but I will NOT let my ALEGIANCES be questioned, especially by the likes of you, I wont post on your blog anymore, but dont question my sincerty, or my honesty because I swear by god, that I am totally honest and sincere when I post on people's blogs.
Angry etc., if you hate Americans so much, we don't you want to ruin them economically? You know this Blogger is an American-owned company. What about not using Blogger but instead some Libyan technology? Because if you follow your ideals, you shouldn't support the US economy by using a US product, especially if that product like Blogger is cultural imperialism, I mean, a lot of stuff here surely makes people Zombies and Blogger is a very important tool to spread ideas you hate. Ah yeah and don't forget to check who sit in the board of Google, Zionists or just their Western lackeys LOL.
(OK, this was irony.)
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Angry Lybian American is a fake. Okay first of all I know this dude he's in my history class, he showed me this blog the other day in the computer lab, he was braging about how he was telling off some convert chick or something like that. This guy is so full of shit I can't begin to tell you, for someone who hates the west he sure loves beer,and heavy Metal,this guy is the ultimate hypocrite he acts like he is some holy roller, but he won't even leave his dorm to go to friday prayer, this guy has no morals, and he is the biggest skirt chaser I have ever met.
He will say anything to get attention, and as far as his sympathies for palistinians go, This guy could not be a bigger fraud. One second Palistinians are a race of "filthy arabs" who stole his oil and his "berber homeland",and the next second they are some of the nicest people he's ever met. It really deepends on how he feels that day.If their is a preety Arab girl in one of his classes he puffs up his chest and plays the part of the brave hero, who stands up for social justice, and as far as him hating the jews, he sure didn't hate them last week when they invited him to get drunk with them at their beach house. Oh yeah as far as I know he has only been to Lybia once and it was for like a week.lol
I totally agree with Angry lybian american - and I have to point out we are living in a new world with a new environment called globalization so for those who are not able to overcome their own national racism angry lybian is not lybian or american - he is both and also should be considered a citizen of the world.
America is the one who is pushing for globalization and wants all the citizens of the world to have one identity. So he's entitled to express his opinion free of those attachments, free of being pointed at as libyan or american. Critics need to update their mentality and deal with angry libyan-american as an individual like anyone else with the same status and ground that the critics themselves are standing on.
I totally agree with everything that angry libyan american says and I salute him for his honest, truthfullness and transparent heart.
Dear Angry Libyan 'American', I am not here to judge you on a personal level, my belief that
you were not 18 is because you sound exactly like ( and use the same terminology) a good
friend of mine does ;) so that was my personal joke to this friend. Obviously you are not
that person as you did not recognize the joke....
On the other hand, I'm not quite clear also with regards to the 'hostile' bit that you
believe I have towards you.. you are posting as anonymous, and I must note that you are the
one who has been showing hostility to other commenters and myself. I imagine you are here to
debate and discuss, not just to give a lecture to us ( am I wrong? ).
As far as your nationality, my suggestion to give up your US passport stems from the fact
that you have on countless times insisted on being the 'PURE' Libyan - whatever that means.
So, when person is that NATIONALISTIC, then that person makes a stand and sticks to it. How
by coming to live here with us and working and benefiting our Libyan society with your
skills ( I'm sure you have some), not lecturing us from across the ocean. In this method you
have acted like the stereotype of the Westerners/Americans/Israelis that you keep critizing
and HATING.... ALA you cannot be both - your blog's message precludes that ! It's either or
& not Libyan and American regardless of where you are born. Unless your message is
different and you are constructively critisizing 'your' American society in which you live
in and to which you would identify with- but you seem to identify only with Libyan 'Berber'
society and have only hate for your country of birth , namely America and I quote from you
"What benfits Does these peice of blue eagled crap give me? "I will NOT let my ALEGIANCES
be questioned" ( allegiance to whom?). In by book that is illogical. I have only reverence
for the passport of my country of birth and would never ever call it crap ! I'm speculating
you have an identity issue, but don't worry it does kinda happens when one is 18 :).
You say "Don't judge me because I don't judge you, and dont ever question my pride, because
you should know that unlike you I AM A PURE Lybian, both my mother and father are PURE
LYBIANS from Zwara, Lybia is a berber country unlike you I am bound by blood, not by
theivery and conquest". That is a paradox , because in that one sentence you have managed
to judge Highlander without knowing anything about her :). I rest my case here .
Whether you post on my blog or not is totally up to you, as long as you remember that is a
dialogue, a conversation and not a platform for propaganda ( that you can do on your blog).
For example when you are invited to a party and you speak with your hosts and their guests
do you start insulting them and shouting or do you try to make a good , fulfilling and
mutually satisfactory conversation, where each party comes out with sometimes either
worthwhile , which may or may not effect social change or at least be entertaining.
And last but not least I've take the effort to reply to your rant because I do believe there
is hope in you yet ( you do have the brains) and also because I never dismiss a fellow
Libyan, but more so because you do remind us in your blog of atrocities propagated against
Arabs and Muslims all over the world under various excuses. However, since you consider
yourself Berber only - I think you should not really care about the Palestinians , Iraqis
etc.. who are Arabs , nor about the Chechens who are non-Berber, nor about the rest of the
non-Arab Libyan :).
A last important note my dear ALA, by advocating the purity of the so called 'Libyan race' ,
aka Berber/Amazigh, apart from emulating Hitler's philosophy you are falling exactly into
the trap of the Western propaganda machine of 'divide & conquer', just like in Iraq ,
Kurds/Shia/Sunni/Arab/Chaldean etc... Is that your message ? It kind of defeats the purpose
of what you are advocating on your blog. Unless your message is simply anti-America and
anti-Israel, and if so logically you have no business to stay one more minute in the US
because you are supposed to be loyal to it as well no matter what. That is my definition of
nationalism.
To Anomymous 12.42 AM: I don't know anything about ALA, he could be all those things you said please refer to my reply to him above. Clearly ALA needs to work out some issues and
now more than ever I do believe he is who he says he is an 18 year old trying to find his identity in this world. I personally wish him all the best and would like to hear from him 10 years from now inshallah !
Now to the Libyan -American- in Libya , oddly enough your IP address is the same as ALA,however let us assume that it is a mistake by the stats counter ;) ( errors do happen).
Moving on to your statements about globalization etc... well yes we are citizens of this world and are free to express ourselves whether as global citizens or as a particular identity. In ALA's case he did not state 'I am a citizen of this world ' , he said that he
was a 100% PURE BERBER LIBYAN and others are not Libyan , he also said that the West and particularly American were and I quote "Westerners, are the scum of the earth" and "America launches her first over sea's war against us, that ISREALI WHORE Regan bombed us, they frame us for all types of silly BULLSHIT aligations, they lock us off from the international community, and now they want to see the eclipse. WHAT THE HELL????? NOW THEY WANT TO EXPLOIT OUR LAND AND TAKE OUR OIL!!!!!!!!!!!! " and "Every one is like a zombie, trying to please
the western vermin" and I can quote more and more from other posts. So please in ALA's case
there is NO world citizen or dual identification crap ( excuse my French). No one is
criticizing him , ALA is simply confusing the issues and we are not sure anymore who is the enemy , the Arabs, the West, the Jews ?
Kindly refer to my reply to ALA above for further clarification, and you will see that although what you stated was valid , it does not apply to ALA in this case.
OK one more reminder the post is about the eclipse in Libya not about Angry Libyan American :) can we please stick to the topic ? I can make another post about nationalism and identity.
Hannibal , Tunis is great thank you, will post more later.
7mada and NBA thank you for your input guys.
Angry lybian "american" , the solution to your problem is easy, renounce your US citizenship and leave to whatever paradise on Earth you choose. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
highlander
shame you are missing the eclipse
I remember few years ago here there was an eclipse, you just suddenly noticed everything going dark, it was really strange feeling
I did get to enjoy a couple of Lunar eclipses . Pretty neat, really
Heh, I've been missing all the good stuff :D
Looks like you attracted a troll to your blog, Highlander!
Not a very clever one though, creating his own virtual buddies to back up his own opinions :p
Highlander
you can check out this site
http://www.alhandasa.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83478
A.Adam :) thanks for the link those guys are nuts and they had a great adventure. I would like to translate their trip and post it on my blog would they mind ? They'll be famous :)
Programmer_Craig , welcome back , now we only need Twosret , I'm sure NBA and Maya are happy to see you around.
Gatorbait ;) thanks for sticking up for me and visiting...
Back to the original topic, I think solar eclipses are great. I've seen two of them, or actually one and a half. The first one was the half one because I really couldn't see anything because of the clouds. I just remember the weird atmosphere of the nature becoming completely silent for a minute or so. The second one was better, middle of the day, everything turning dark, ah really weird especially when experienced in the middle of a big city. Due to my first non-experience, I didn't have too many expectations for the second one but was very positively surprised.
Maya, did you see the one in Bulgarian in 1999?
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Highlander, it's my pleasure to stand with you , in front of you if need be. We may not always agree on everything, but no way someone comes into your home and throw garbage.
I would like to translate their trip and post it on my blog would they mind ? They'll be famous :)
I don't think there's problem I will send link to them after you do it, They are my friends and I spending aot of time with
Thank you so much "Anomymous 12.42 AM" for exposing me for the "fraud" I am.(I know who you are ADAM, you duchbag you where the only person I showed this blog to!!!!)I could get mad at you but when I read about the " Jewish drinking Parties" I almost died of a heart attack!!!!! Did they invite me before, they broke all the windows in my car of afterwards, or was it before they filed a complaint to the dean of students attempting to get me expelled or was it afterwards, oh i dont know I was too busy,getting drunk off the western"Beer" to remember LOL!!!!!!! Oh yeah Dude stop looking at my Chest I know its hard, but please attempt to restrain yourself.
Highlander thank you for replying to my rant that was really nice of you, most people with either, ignore me and lable me as a mad-man, or curse the hell out off me. You are right I have got some issues. This year has been really hard for me, I am going to school out of state, my family is on the other side of the country, and for some aparent reason I havent made a single friend In this shit hole whcih I am living in. As far as the Nationilism issue is concerned, you are right. I have always considered my self an Arab, I read arabic, and I speak arabic, but as of late i have been trying to disassociate my self from the label, I have been trying to find, an Identity, something to belong to, Right now America is going threw a VERY PATRIOTIC STAGE, every where I go people are waving their flags, and Despite what the mainstream media says the average American Is very supportive of George W Bush and the war effort, every time I turn on the radio, all I hear is Anti-Arab sentimate, and Islamopbobia. Radio hosts actually use words like "sand-nigger" on the air. And the Michael Savage show, well most folks at my campus are pretty big fans of him, need I say more. I would like nothing more than to come back home to Lybia and go to school their, and as of late It is something I am strongly considering that is of course if my parents let me, because I am totally broke. I have nothing against non-berbers, I am just a little confused, sometimes I make statements without thinking, when I look back at them It is only then I see how stupid, ignorant and baseless they are, I am an emotional writter, the first line of my post may totally contridict the last line off my post, I write whatever comes into my head. I really like your blog, and I enjoy posting on it, its really the closest thing to social contact I have had in a while. As far as the hostility comment I wrote, at the begining of my post, I guess, I have been a bit paranoid as of late, you stated that I was the one being hostile, I am sorry for that, I promise I will try my best to be more respectful while posting on your blog, thank you again for the fellow Lybian comment it means more to me than you will ever know.
Oh yes one last thing 7mada thank you for the reminder, it probably saved Anomymous 12.42 AM's life.LOL
One last thing I did not write the Libyan-American-in-Libya post, when I post I only post as my self, as far as the same IP address I don't really know how that works(is it the address of the computer or the server), I don't have a computer, I post from a computer lab, so if it is the server which I am guessing it is because that seems to be the way you identified my post( I dont write from the same computer), It could be Anomymous 12.42 AM, he does things like this often, or it could be a mistake, or he could have given the address to this blog to someone else. As far as the comment is concerned I totally disaggre with the citzen of the world statement, I am a strong beliver in the kill or be killed concept, social darwinism, their is no such thing as being a "citzen of the world" unless the world was under Islam, I only play humanitarian because as of this moment Muslims are at the beating end of the stick,and I hate to see muslims suffer, because while I am confused right now I am sure about one thing and that is I am a Muslim, my fellow muslims all over the world are like my flesh and blood, when they suffer I suffer, and despite my occasional stupid comments, I love every single Muslim, arab, berber, chechyan,ect.. exactly the same, and I would be more than glad to take a bullet for a fellow Muslim anytime, but at the same time this Humanitarian feeling would be gone in a moment, if it where someone else on the reciving end of a beating, If Muslims ruled the world I could give a shit less about non-muslims under occupation, or the killing of their men, or the enslavement of their women and children, I am not a humanitarian, I am a stong beliver in control and conquest, If America was a Muslim country, and Iraq was a non-muslim country I would support every thing that she is doing, as long as they did not kill, torture and rape innocent civilians, because this goes against the teachings of islam. I am not a liberal I only stand with them Because we have a comman enemy(Christianity.) But my belifes are in reality closer to those of the evangilical right. If Pat Robertson where to accept Islam I would be his number one fan, I was raised in a very Islamic household,liberal concepts such as freedom of speach(blasphemy, and vulgarity), homosexuality, where not values I was imbeded with, and they are not values which I aggre with. I don't belive in such concepts as citzen of the world, because this go against Islam, in Islam their is Dara al-harab and Dara al-Islam, the domain of war, and the domain of Islam, their are three catagories of people Muslims, the enemies of Muslims, and people who are non-muslims but are friendly or indiferant to Muslims, people usally who pay a tax, I can only relate to the first and i can only tolerate the last.
Programmer_Craig you do not know what you are talking about. First off I am not a troll I a 6'3 and I weigh 245 pounds, I am far from being a god-damn troll!!!!!! Second off I do not creat my own virtual buddies to back up my opinions, I was suprised when I saw the post, I was also troubled because I think someone is trying to hijack my good name probably "Anomymous 12.42 AM". If I wanted to creat a profile that backed up my views I would come up with a name better than "Libyan-American-in-Libya ",to the casual observer it seems obviouse that I wrote it, but I swear to god I didn't, I dont care if anyone aggrees with me, I just want my say, thats all. Don't question my intelect, the only people who do such things are JEWS, and you don't wanna be known as a JEW do you? UNLESS YOU ARE A JEW?????????????? NO, NO I should not think such horrible things.
HIGHLANDER, I WILL GET A PROFILE, SO THEIR WON'T BE ANY MIX UPS. I droped the AMERICAN for acoss the sea, it's much better but I will probably post as LybianWarrior.
Programmer_Craig you do not know what you are talking about. First off I am not a troll I a 6'3 and I weigh 210 pounds, I am far from being a god-damn troll!!!!!! Second off I do not creat my own virtual buddies to back up my opinions, I was suprised when I saw the post, I was also troubled because I think someone is trying to hijack my good name probably "Anomymous 12.42 AM". If I wanted to creat a profile that backed up my views I would come up with a name better than "Libyan-American-in-Libya ",to the casual observer it seems obviouse that I wrote it, but I swear to god I didn't, I dont care if anyone aggrees with me, I just want my say, thats all. Don't question my intelect, the only people who do such things are JEWS, and you don't wanna be known as a JEW do you? UNLESS YOU ARE A JEW?????????????? NO, NO I should not think such horrible things.
HIGHLANDER, I WILL GET A PROFILE, SO THEIR WON'T BE ANY MIX UPS. I droped the AMERICAN for acoss the sea, it's much better but I will probably post as LybianWarrior.
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